ARTICLES PUBLISHED IN
PREVIOUS TRANNY GUIDES
- Trannies on Television
WayOut Girls at 'Richard & Judy'
Whitfield on TV
Lee and Trisha Goddard
with Crowned Tranny Queen
Lee with Ruby Wax
Finalists at the Tranny of the Year
the Dead Donkey
TV Junkies' By Vicky Lee
(Vicky dishes the dirt)
welcome calls from researchers and involvement with television
hope we have helped spread positive awareness of the tranny
scene through our efforts - (god knows it pays nothing).
have had many television crews in The WayOut Club - For
these crews our rules are simple.
Camera lenses are to be covered
when not actually filming
Filming is only allowed in predefined
areas where people know they are being filmed.
For crowd shots we tell the
club where and when we are filming on our microphone so
that those that want to be out of shot can move out and
those that want to be "on the telly" can get in.
addition to the filming at the club we have helped with
the research arranged for others and appeared ourselves
in many programs
ON WORKING WITH PROGRAMS
can die from exposure'. (By Vicky Lee)
published in The Tranny Guide 7th edition
television shows contact me looking for trannies for their
researchers have a program format that calls for people
shows have a high risk of making the tranny look like
an odd ball.
Many trannies gain a small amount of confidence and then
get all evangelical. Then they want to take their message
to the people. In most cases, they are still this time,
at the confused stage where they have a lot to learn about
what is going on inside their heads as well as about presenting
themselves in public both visually and vocally.
There are more and more television programs that are all
too ready to pounce on an unsuspecting tranny to put on
the screen. There was a time when television was trying
to be worthy and open viewer's minds to the politically
correct. But don't be fooled - things have changed - 'Jerry
Springer' gets the highest rating and every program is
trying to copy the format.
If a program asks you to go on the screen, you will invariably
end up looking silly (at best). So... I don't expect this
piece will put you off your evangelical path. After all
I have done enough shows (and made enough mistakes).
are some tips and pointers to help you avoid the traps:
ONE - Many of these shows want a before and
after transformation. Be warned many trannies who do this
appear to be a sad man, lacking confidence who becomes
an over confident pastiche. This un-nerves most viewers
as they see someone unbalanced and unhappy. Better to
only allow a very good boy still picture to be shown and
only present one character to maintain respect.
TWO - Many researchers will tell you that the
show they are working on aims to explain cross-dressing
(in a positive light - of course). They will film you
for two days and edit the piece to two minutes of sensationalism.
A program would need a series to "explain" cross-dressing.
Much better to insist that you will help explain a very
small part of the big story. OR just go for it and give
them a fun OTT bit of sensationalism and show that you
do not take yourself too seriously .
THREE - If you are interviewed alone as the
only tranny on a show, at worst you can make yourself
look silly, at best you can win support from your interviewer/audience
and do us all good. However if you go on a show with alot
of other trannies the presenter can draw the conclusion
and USE you and the others to generalise and make it look
that all trannies are whatever they want to put over.
FOUR - Trannies that go on a show with a partner
need to know that if the tranny out-dresses the partner
it looks like an unbalanced relationship. Often a tranny
takes on super confidence disguised in wig and make up
but the partner does the reverse revealed in front of
millions to be associated with something that she has
barely come to terms with herself. The tranny speaks up
confidently the partner mutters in her lap the viewer
concludes that the male is enforcing his will over his
subjugated partner. I am sorry but that is what it looks
FIVE - If the show goes out at night darkly
lit and the presenter wears evening wear both the tranny
and the partner will look dowdy in daywear. Equally if
the show is very daytime - daywear is needed. How many
times have you heard the tranny asked by the daytime presenter
in a smart suit would you wear 'that' to Tesco's. The
worst mistake is for the tranny and partner to have totally
opposite images or indeed exactly the same image as both
mistakes lead to the viewer drawing the wrong conclusions
about unbalanced relationship or cloning.
SIX - So many trannies and partners have not
learnt lesson one before stepping on a television set.
You all go out there because you are happy with yourselves
so SMILE, and keep on smiling. Meet interviewers and questioners
confidently. Your smile will say more about you, than
words ever can. I am sure that the silence from audiences
over this subject comes from the fact that the audience
is embarrassed by the trannies apparent embarrassment.
SEVEN - Drag Queens almost
always come across better on television because they appear
confident. However they can also come across as too confident.
Being a snotty bitch queen might work in club land but
you will look like gay larger lout if you don't display
a little kindness and empathy on television.
am positively encouraging programs to use us without specific
comment about our image, to talk about any subject (i.e.
not the cross-dressing).
tranny in a programme trailer can double show rating.
That means we have some power and in time if we avoid
the conflict traps we will get the opportunities to be
shown in the positive.
about it - a tranny and partner on Supermarket Sweep (without
comment about their image).
Now I would have a dozen super trannies for that opportunity
ring me Vicky Lee 07778 157290 to talk about your idea
and next time I get asked I will put forward your idea
and your contact address etc.
remember my advice at the beginning of this section. “You
can die from exposure”.
"RICHARD & JUDY" EXPERIENCE
Richard And Judy 'This Morning'
show heard about our visit to Ascot
and asked us to arrange for three trannies to have a 'makeover'
by their team.
setting up the models, the 'This
Morning' script was revealed. The producer
wanted the trannies, (dressed male), to stage a scene
at a betting office saying - 'wouldn't it be a giggle
to dress up as women and see if we can get into Ascot
Ladies day - Richard and Judy can you help us'.
real story that we have been to Ascot for two years and
we have been invited back with Royal Paddock passes was
just not good enough for them. None of the trannies would
go along with the script. I fell out with the producer
and we did not do the show.
Morning' did the Ascot makeover for three
'real girls' the morning we were booked to appear. Strangely
the tacky scene at the betting office was not required
to set up the real girls makeover.
WayOut Girls are favourites of Richard
he boasted "I have your picture on my fridge". The WayOut
Girls have been on the 'This Morning' show three time
and Steffan once more. On one occasion the show forgot
to clear the use of the Spice Girls music and got slapped
a very big fine.
the second time The Kilroy
show wanted to do a show on cross-dressing
know that, along with others, I gave hours to the researchers
for this show. Unlike a previous time with Kilroy the
researchers actually came to 'The WayOut Club'. I was
impressed and stood on the stage and appealed for contributors
to the show.
Scott also went on the show representing 'The
Beaumont Society'. She has a wealth of
relationship and life stories to draw upon, as I do having
met new couples every week for six years at 'The
this show I arranged for a good-looking trendy mid twenties
tranny with his equally good-looking girlfriend to represented
the younger honest modern tranny. I arranged for a few
experienced couples who are happy and confident to both
dress up and go out and party but do not take cross-dressing
into their sex lives or in front of their young children.
we got to the studio there were two or three trannies
that the researchers had found that I describe before
as "newly out confused and
evangelical". The researchers had also
found two couples that have a relationship that revolves
around the fact that the female partner encourages the
male to dress and to have sex with her dressed. The two
couples with the encouraging females on the front row
were mic’d up and more than a third of the show was given
to exploring their experience.
Kilroy talked to a 'confused' (single) tranny with a sad
story (who lets face it looked a little dodgy) asking
them to stand up and to give him a twirl. He made no use
of Janett's experience, our young trendy couples, or my
result of this show can only be that most viewers will
be consider that tranny relationships are destructive
and sad and that any accepting female partners like kinky
sex with hubby dressed in his frillies which is very rarely
that the end of it NO
was contacted again a few months later and asked to take
part in another Kilroy SHOW Take Two again on ‘Transvestite
Show - "Take Two"
immediately said "no way"
based on the way that the research and contributors were
treated only a few months before. I was contacted again
a few minutes later to be told that - yes the Kilroy team
agreed that the previous program "lost the plot" but that
changes had been made. Fewer contributors will be booked.
Adequate time would be allowed for each contribution and
Robert will "stick to the cards". The complete production
team will be doing everything to make the program work.
Then notes about my own relationship collected for the
earlier program were read back to me and in short the
researcher pleaded with me to come back on the show to
allow my story to be explored in full. I provided a still
picture of myself with my partner Lesley and the article
about us in last years 'Tranny
my better judgement I was convinced by the promises.
few days later I was told that the program was short of
couples but they had a mother and tranny son. On the strength
of this I offered a family of mother, father and tranny
son who were supportive understanding and could offer
advice and support to the other family whilst exploring
how they have come to terms with their relationships.
were we all treated this time?
the recording I was shown the running order and was told
when I would be expected to give my story. I was asked
to be bubbly and feisty. I was told to join in and make
comment about others statements.
first couple "interviewed" were great - In their 70s very
open, and quite possibly the best couple I have seen talk
if they had been allowed to ... BUT Kilroy handled them
like they were a couple of weirdo's as he painted a sordid
picture from his imagination of the wifes first discovery
of her cross-dressing partner. I cringed.
feel it is Kilroys words and his relationship with this
couple - not their relationship with each other, that
the viewer will remember.
the father, Ray, said he was “proud
of his tranny son” despite the spontaneous
support of the whole studio forum - Kilroy pushed ahead
with his own reaction saying that he “failed
to see what Ray could be proud about".and furthermore
deriding him for helping his tranny son to perform using
his cross-dressing skill.
was not inspiring discussion, with shock tactics. In my
opinion he was expressing his own feelings and allowed
no further discussion.
I did comment on this attack on Ray and his son - he brusquely
told me to shut up and wait my turn.
to my own case - I was promised that the relationship
with my partner, how it has survived and what we have
learnt from the experiance would be featured prominently
and would be explored in full.
made no attempt to interview me though he did gesticulate
(off camera), when others were talking, encouaging me
to cut in. I did not try to cut in at this point as another
person was talking and it would have been rude of me to
interupt with no good reason.
simple phrase from Kilroy such as "what
has been your experience?" would have been
enough to start an "interview"
with me (as promised).
when I did get to say something, I was cut off after just
a few seconds all I managed to say was
I recognised a lot of what the first couple said and that
I had suffered depression and illness myself".
story went no further .... leaving my partner and myself
misrepresented and exposed.
the show all of the production of the team and reaserchers
apologised profusley. Mr Kilroy Silk was off like a rabbit
out of a trap without a word.
thats NOT the end of the story as a year later a new set
of researchers were back to again put a Kilroy show together.
refused to have anything to do with this new show. The
BBC Kilroy program then sent 3 researchers to The
WayOut Club to find out why I would not
go on the Kilroy show or help find others to do the show.
need not have troubled themselves as they could have read
why here on my website (which is what I told their telephone
they were actually at the club to "persuade
me". None of these 3 were working with
Kilroy last time I did the show, when I had been disgusted
at the way Kilroy treated and spoke to the tranny guests,
I said to them then what I said to the team after my third
back to me when you have finished working with Kilroy
and I will help you all I can with what ever program you
are researching - untill then forget it"
this clear statement - during the next week the "executive
producer" rang me and tried to persuade me to see things
differently. After nearly an hour he received the same
"MICHAEL COLE" EXPERIENCE
the 'Michael Cole' show
for UK Living I spent six hours with the researcher trying
to ensure the same mistakes would not be made and having
been given the impression that Janett and I would be interviewed
in depth about tranny relationships backed up by an interview
with one couple I set off to the show.
On the day of recording three more couples were recruited
that I did not know about and our interviews were cut.
couple was tricked into giving two different accounts
of how cross-dressing entered their relationship which
was picked up and used to embarrass them.
two other trannies in couples admitted proudly (whilst
Dr Russell Reid was explaining once again that transvestism
rarely leads on to transsexualism) that they were both
on hormones under his care! oops !!
course the most sensational part of this show became the
introduction of an encouraging female partner who arrived
on set in a full dominatrix outfit complete with strap
on dildo. The show had asked the tranny partner to also
dress this way but he had firmly declined. (when the show
went out the dildo was technically blurred out).
Cole approached every couple with negative questioning,
digging for what problems the couple had and got the negative
stories he was looking for.
I have respect for each and every couple and know that
a good show could be made with any one of them - BUT having
them all on the same show leaves viewers confused thinking
that trannies are all looking for hormones and a partner
with a dildo.
love Trisha and hope she is given a more mature format
to work with), lets face it the trailer trash relationships,
fat and thin have got boring.
Trisha Show - was very accommodating to
the cross-dressing story significantly bending their format
to achieve a positive tranny programme.
had the fun of opening the show dressed and made up as
Trisha. She was really nice to me and helped me make the
most of my spot reading the auto cue in her shoes (and
show started with Celeste and Niky two loud queeny drag
queens and their long suffering straight friend.
audience was really great - giving a very supportive and
positive reaction to the whole concept of "being
yourself and expressing yourself".
another occasion my good friend and beautician Nas got
a raw deal as she was said to be providing a makeover
for another tranny guest who freaked out before the show
at the clothes bought by the show and threatened not to
go on unless he could wear his own clothes.
20 minutes Nas had him made up as requested by the show
- he freaked again and took it all off and redid it in
all thought he could have looked a lot better if he had
taken advice and Nas was upset about her reputation. But
when he returned to the studio the audience applauded
his resolve and personality. And so did Nas and I.
following is part of one of the letters I received after
that Trisha Show sent in by a correspondent who runs a
Vicky, I Saw the programms on Trisha, why... why.... You
looked good dressed as a woman and passing as such. But
the two drag queens?? they are not a representative of
the transvestites that I work with ...
was disappointed in the programme. The young man who was
made up as a woman. I would never have turned him out
dressed like that.
should meet one of my 'girls', she is very stylish, up
with all the trends and passes wherever I take her. Surely
this is what all trannies should aim for.
you want to expose the female side of men and have it
accepted, then do not antagonise the other sex who would
pick holes in the subjects portrayed on the programme.
I have a lot more to say on the subject, but await your
reply to the above .. in trepidation...
is part of the answer I sent back.
know - I know ... It is so hard to get a program together
that really hits exactly the right buttons.
I think you missed the point with this one. Firstly the
show did not set out to talk about "transvestites" it
set out to talk about the wider reference "men that wear
women's clothes". I think the show was very successful
because the average viewer (Statistics say that they all
read the tabloids and watch the soaps) identify with the
audience and the presenter on these shows not the guests.
They want to be part of the crowd not individuals.
- If you watched and listened to the audience they were
very supportive to the cross-dressers. At the end of the
day if the average viewer see enough of this kind of audience
reaction they will pick this up and copy it in their daily
lives - If this happens then the show did what I hoped
it would do. That is - to make it easier for me and every
other cross-dresser to mix in public without being judged
as sick or perverted.
Jerry Springer whether we like it or not IS the biggest
rating show world wide. Other shows are trying to compete
by trying the same formula. We have to learn how to use
this highly popular medium to improve OUR rating.
disgusted sister was to a large degree acting to fit the
format and get "on the telly". The audience hated her
and sided with her cross-dressing brother which did us
all a favour.
the subject of Drag Queens please believe me, most drag
queens are cross-dressers too - many gay trannies hide
behind drag to do their cross-dressing and often find
it harder to come out as trannies than gay.
my experience when Mr & Mrs Average meet cross-dressing
face to face (or at least on television), reactions are
accept an obvious OTT drag queen as safe pantomime fun.
Others find them an affront. Some will appear to accept
a well dressed, passable, cross-dresser however they rarely
understand it and often find it frightening especially
in their own family.
would love you and your 'girls' to provide a better image
on a future television show. However I suspect like many
others, your customer, quite rightly, is not ready for
that kind of exposure. But without some one breaking down
the barriers - trannies everywhere will continue to suffer
the pain of the closet (which nearly killed me).
you for inspiring me to write this reply. I hope it may
be useful for other to read in an article that I am preparing
for the Tranny Guide. (of course without any reference
to you personally).
Regards Vicky Lee
OFF" I don't think so...
WayOut Spice Girls reunited to appear on
Eastenders - And to appear on Eastenders in front of 8million
to LA Paula Pure
coincidentaly read in the Virgin in flight magazine that
the 'Spice Girls' as a group has been keeping a low profile
unlike drag tribute act 'The
WayOut Spice Girls'. To prove the point
while Paula toured LA and Las Vegas, The BBC screened
East Enders (to an average viewing audience
8million), featuring a story line based around the E20
nightclub advertising a spice tribute without telling
the squares macho lads that it was a drag tribute. For
the recording Miss Karla (now living in Ibiza), joined
Steffan, Paula, Miss Debonaire and Sarah Lloyd to be told
by Bepe "Spice Off"
OK so the script wasn't very positive, it wasn't politically
correct... But 8 million viewers were left to think were
the boys over re- ACTING? Of course as we know, real Eastenders
would have called for more.
NEW DIGITAL SEX TELLY SERIES NEEDS YOU New - (9-10-01)
Sex was a 6 part series on Chanel 4 Yes
a six part series which included footage from The
Sarah Lloyds bedroom
and even included the director
Mark in drag at the club. This program
pulled no punches but represented the WayOut
Club very well.
The program went out on Chanel
4 midnight Saturday from 1th October 2000
- look out for repeats.
Mark has been in touch again for contacts to make a second
for the chat today, I'm happy that you were pleased with
the episode in the first series that you featured in and
thanks for any help with this series in advance. For Digital
Sex 2, we are looking for people who can talk about these
changing your gender been a sexual high ?
you a man who go on lesbian internet sex lines/chat rooms
you a tranny who previously only had sex with women and
now have sex with men?
you transitioning from MTF or FTM and your sexuality has
you regard yourself as inbetween the sexes?
you a post-op transsexual who have alternatively had sex
with men and women?
you a man or woman who's surgery has made their sex lives
you are interested in talking about these issues on CH4
TV call Amory or Tamsin in confidence at Ricochet TV:
0207 251 6966 or email: email@example.com
Erotic award 2001 for Best Film/Documentary featured Vicky
Lee and The Way Out club in the first series. Has changing
your gender or having cosmetic surgery affected your sex
life? The second Channel 4 series is looking for pre and
post-op Transsexuals to talk about these subjects. If
you would like to talk further Please call Amory or tamsin
on 0207 251 6966 in confidence or email firstname.lastname@example.org
WEBSITE REVIEWED ON TELEVISION
While sitting here working on the new Tranny
Guide I was very excited to catch on television
a review of www.wayout-publishing.com
on Chanels 3's 'The Web Review'.
On the program the script was the review that follows
but seeing our familiar spinning WayOut logo with screen
shot after screen shot from our site nearly had me fall
of my chair. The review is also on their website under
'lifestyles' and will move into their 'archive' of reviews
at the end of the week.
is the review
review by Katherine Harvey
The Web Review midnight Tuesday 1st November 2000 ITV
site is for those of you who love putting on make-up,
slipping on silk and lace and dressing up in skirts and
high heels for a night on the tiles. And as I'm not talking
about the women out there, then you must be way out.
is part of the 'Way Out' transvestites club. This site
has everything about the club from how it got started
to information on products like
‘The Tranny Bible’. But the main crux is
the club night itself, which is held in the heart of London
on Saturday nights. If you're a new tranny, find out about
their special welcome and how to get your make-up and
nails done. You can check out the club section for details
of their annual events, which include the Alternative
Miss London and the Drag
Olympics. And if you're looking for inspiration
there are loads of pictures from the hosts themselves
to The Way Out girls
- a tranny version of The Spice Girls.
thing I like about the site is that it really has a sense
of humour whilst being sensitive to the issues involved.
While I can't begin to understand why grown men would
want to wear high heels and knickers, I can imagine that
it must be hard to be a first timer. There's loads of
encouragement and practical advice on the site and I understand
that the club is open to open-minded non-trannies too.
if you go, you can spot the transvestites because they
are the most glamorous, with the best hair and make-up
- and the Adam's apple. .......... RATING: 7/10
LEE ON THE TOILET - ON THE TELLY - (15-1-02)
ever next?? - Claudia Winkleman interviewd Vicky Lee for
the 'Tiger Aspects' series 'Toilets'
series of 6 x 30min programs starts 14th January on BBC
Choice at 11pm (and repeated infinitum thereafter wherever
good satelite and cable is available). The program explores
the history, ettiquete, and future of our most useful
addition to civilisation. Why talk to Vicky? Well as an
inbetweenie she can comment on the difference between
the way men and women use them. Was Claudia as nice as
she looks? Nicer and Vicky has invited her to visit her
'cottage' anytime she is passing. Try and catch it.
is influencing the public with the brilliant drip, drip
of oh so subtle mentions of cross-dressing into advertising
example "At the weekend my
name is Mandy" and who saw the trailers
from Ericson in-between 'Fraser' on Channel 4 - Obscure
straight man talking to fridge "This weekend I am dating
a transvestite" …. "Do you think she was annoyed that
I looked better in her dress?" …. "I think I will see
The 'Celebrations' advert
with the undercover cops "Men"... and the bounce advert
to name but a few
FILES & LITTLE JOHN
were my best bit of telly.
Katrina and doctor Pam Spurr for Sex
Files on UK Living I was interviewed about
the club and Tranny sex lives for a full 15 mins and it
was really good. I got to sing at the end of the show
(my first time - now I know what "bum twitch" means).
This program was repeated SO many times that I was told
by a number of people, "I saw you on Sex Files again the
other night - the song you did this time was better than
the first on!!".
I was interviewed with my friend Sophie about going to
Ascot Ladies day. But the best bit was getting to sing
'Knock on Wood' with a full band - I was
high as a kite for two weeks after that experiance.
5 TRANNY OF THE YEAR
A high profile show at 10pm on Channel 5 really did it
for me when they put together a program together called
Tranny of the Year.
the same night they showed a documentary about my friend
Miss Veronica Vera's New
York Finishing School and a few other tranny
bits (shame they could not have put a film in the middle
to complete an evening of tranny veiwing).
night was publicised as 'Tranny
Night' and was picked up as the "choice"
of the evening by most papers and magazines.
5 must have been delighted.
the telly they held heats in various gay clubs around
The Sound Republic under
London's Leicester Sq they set up a flashy
studio to record the final.
profile judges included:
Scott (what is his name - gay comedian in Star Wars),
Wayne Hemmingway (Red or Dead).
finalists were interviewed, (in a young, funky chaotic
way) by Ruby Wax and Miss Kymberly (without as much as
a mention that Kym is a tranny).
and friends of contestants were highlighted in the very
supportive audience while the contestants danced a routine
together and also gave solo performances.
whole thing looked like a party which is exactly what
it was. A party to celebrate
very girly Davina
was chosen by the judges and a pole here on our web site
confirmed that most people liked this choice.
is very fresh faced, very girly, curvy (not too skinny),
confident in a shy way and what every young tranny wants
to look like.
was good to see that the judges of this high profile show
thought that Davina was what the current tranny scene
was all about, in comparison to androgyny, lady boy and
drag queen. Davina is a true miss Transgender.
5 are considering making the program (which was based
on a successful Dutch show) into a series.
JERRY SPRINGER SHOW
Jerry's show became a total circus show, my friends Stewart
and Ruth flew over to the USA to do a show which treated
there whole story with interest and respect. We some times
show it on the screen at The WayOut Club.
his format has gone all the way to hell - even he says
that. We all know Jerry's love of trannies on his program
(looks a bit suspect to me - sorry no hot gossip).
seems to be on a mission to tell trannies not to mislead
men which is not a bad idea. But how bad does his show
make people look.
Jerry came to do a series of shows in England every one
on the Tranny scene was called. I must have been called
three times per day and I know that many others were too.
would have been all too easy to fake something up to get
"on the telly" BUT WE ALL
HAVE WE BEEN ON
WayOut Spice Girls have been regulars on Carltons
Friday night 'End
of the week show', Blonde
Ambition - Ch 5 and Richard & Judy's This
Morning - about 5 times.
WayOut Club has helped with a number of programs who
have filmed at the club writing such as
Raw' - Channel 5.
Michael Cole - UK Living
'Basic Instincts' on Sky One and two
Little John Live - Sky One .... I loved that one I got
to sing with a fab band.
Kilroy - BBC
Trisha - GMTV
Sex Files - UK Living
Sex in Suburbia - Ch 5 With Jodie and Jenny
British Sex - Sky One - We have done two pieces with them.
are repeated frequently and are also shown worldwide (My
family have seen me in 'British
Sex' in Australia).
recently we have been part of:
Toilets with Claudia Winkleman
arranged for a number of Tranny extras for the penultimate
episode of the hit comedy:
The Dead Donkey' - (and
did they give us some dodgy syrups to work with).
list would be longer but I can't remember them all.